Skip to content

DEROC ; Distributed Evolved Recovery Of Jettisoned Components

DEROM ; Distributed Evolved Recovery Of Jettisoned Matter. (DEROC ) components might be a better choice.

How would it work? not sure but here is a guess( see Rappolee Flower post) Payload adapter and payload shroud/fairing would be brought to LEO.Payload fairing would deploy around payload but would not jettison from payload adapter (Rappolee flowers Post ).Payload separates.Rappolee flowers deploy photovoltaic on the inside of the fairing.A mesh deploys around the fairing halves that has more photovoltaic cells and acts as an antenna.The mesh is designed to deploy with the fairing halves to create a circular object.

We need to dock and store these somewhere for later use or use them as is somehow(power)the underside of the former payload adapter could have a grapple fixture or a docking mechanism with the power connector for other docked power users.

We are selling power and communications to some communications provider perhaps?

Nocturnal Synchronous polar orbiter utilizing ACES IVF and ICE power sources and Distributed Launch

Nocturnal Synchronous polar orbiter utilizing ACES IVF and ICE power sources and Distributed Launch

Nocturnal Synchronous polar orbits are defined as the opposite of Sun-synchronous polar orbits.It envisioned as a method to conceal from observation spysats.These orbits are not ideal for large expensive satellites but might be worthwhile as ride share on ACES upper stages as a power source to replace solar panels.

Possibly we could do a nonfunded RFP to find out from the scientific community of possible uses of permanently shaded spacecraft for earth observation, astronomy, and intelligence gathering.

(A) What is the maximum polar orbit that can stay in darkness? (B) In some cases, spacecraft illumination might be allowed at Apogee in remote southern ocean areas.(C) What is the boil off ratio for ACES in a Nocturnal orbit?

(D) CONOPS; An ACES stage fully fueled delivers a payload to Polar orbit, after Spacecraft separation ACES maneuvers into a Nocturnal polar orbit with rideshare IR instruments or a secondary payload.IVF and ICE powers and cools the IR instruments.LH2 cools LNe2 to cool IR instruments (see the ACES Spider proposal) same could be claimed for an astronomy instrument.Future ACES to polar orbit refuel the Nocturnal ACES in a form of distributed Launch.

Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration Technologies ESOP colonization compact

We the 200 passengers on the spaceship hereby pledge our mutual fortunes and future prosperity and wellbeing and happiness to one another through our California public benefit corporation and ESOP.

We pledge to share our intellectual and entrepreneurial ideas to one another through our ESOP to advance our cause of making mars and other worlds our home.We pledge to spread the joy of new found knowledge with everyone back in our original home.

We will Borrow $ 200 Million for our passage and purchase of the spaceship and reuse the spaceship to earn revenue to bring yet more passengers.Our passage there for is a business expense towards future revenues and is a liability of the ESOP corporation.If we fail we do not owe as individuals but if we work hard and succeed the $200 million plus our other investments in mars architecture becomes our pension plan in the decades ahead.

Think of the Mayflower compact but I have added in the philosophy of Employee ownership together with that of the for profit public benefit corporation.


Hybrid Strongback/Crane

Hybrid Strongback/Crane

This planetary lander would serve as a dock at a spaceport to assist other landers to unload bulky or heavy cargo.

Also, this strongback/crane would serve to build buildings



Chinese city state,overseas communities & diasporia commercial space stations and colonization

Chinese city-state, overseas community’s & diaspora commercial space stations, and colonization 

Private-Public partnerships between Chinese city-states and overseas Chinese communities to loft space stations and to colonize the solar system using the Chinese neighborhood associations.

Chinese nation states such as Taiwan, disporaiSingapore could join with the Worldwide diaspora to embarlk on this endeaver.



nation states





No ISS after 2024? not in the interests of commercial crew and cargo, what to do?

No ISS after 2024? not in the interests of commercial crew and cargo, what to do?No ISS after 2024? not in the interests of commercial crew and cargo, what to do?


Extend to 2028 is really what we want even if it comes out of SLS cargoes beyond LEO budgets, WHY? SpaceX is spending capital gained from government and commercial launch of its Mars project.The rest of us should do something similar in the interests of individual projects.No ISS beyond 2024 gores the Ox of Sierra Nevada the most I think to do to it’s not being a candidate for Cislunar.So it’s Sierra Nevada that gains the most in joining in with a  ULA propellant tank space station deployment.ULA, of course, loses out it Dream Chaser comes to an end or is curtailed.

This line of argument means we sell the Sierra Nevada on funding, loaning, transaction owning and then selling an interest in the Propellant tank derived space station to the transaction is tax-free to the seller to the ESOP shares.If Sierra Nevada manufacturers equipment in a cash-free transaction to the Space station and later sells that contribution to the ESOP this might work as well.


Its in the interests of ULA to further the goals of Dream Chaser beyond 2024/28

Starliner is not a vehicle immeadetly intended for beyond LEO to Cis lunar so Boeing and ULA are best served with a back up to an early ISS deorbit. Likewise, Bigelow may or may not be ready and/or Bigalow might need a backup to its ECLASS and propulsion by docking to another space station.Indeed a Bigalow without ECLASS and its own propulsion could be docked.So it might very be in Bigelow’s interests to partner with another docking port provider.We could very well propose that the ESOP has purchased from partnership shares in ownership of both ULA and Bigalow.Or Bigalow rents docking space as per my original idea.

Bigalow might be one a transitional part owner in the ULA station as well as contributing its inflatables.

It might be in our interests for the ESOP to purchase Starliner flights and resale them to customers(tax reasons?)also if the ESOP owns the Starliner that revenue is tax-free (ESOP is a pension plan)Possibly the ESOP purchase Dream Chasers to bring their future revenues tax-free, under ERISA this means the astronauts are the employee owners of this project(plus support staff and my manufacturing worker proposal) At one time a pilot ESOP-owned United Airlines that ended unhappily a cautionary tale.

orbital ATK might lose out to an early end to ISS so it to could have an interest in funding or partner with a large Propellant tank derived space station.

We can rent docking space to those entity’s that would own the modules removed from the ISS

Possibly the ESOP also owns the launch site flare gas cogeneration sites as suggested in prior posts.

ESOP’s may be S Corporation partners so ULA, Orbital, Sierra Nevada, Boeing and terrestrial & cislunar technologies and the ESOP all could be S corporation partners as well as subcontractors who have non-cash equipment contributions (solar arrays,nanoracks,post ISS module owners?)







Inoculated American Chestnut with Truffle spores to displace harmful fungi

Inoculated American Chestnut with Truffle spores to displace harmful fungi

A novel proposal?

Also, might create a new Forrest agriculture or polyculture



Sonoma county first ever truffle harvest




The Hypothesis is that Tuber Melanosporum the truffle organism could displace The American Chestnut deleterious fungal organism Cryphonectria parasitica, an added benefit would be that this could also be a harvested crop as well.Perhaps inoculating American Chestnuts with a native truffle would also work to ward off the Cryphonectria parasitica?

Commercial space and the use of Liquid propellant SLS CBC development seed money

Commercial space and the use of Liquid propellant SLS CBC development seed money

The folks at the center for strategic and international studies have put out a study on the industrial base and contracting strategies for a post RD-180 world.Mention is made of the synergies of mass production of the Blue Origins engines for use with the Vulcan and ULA launch vehicles.The report makes no mention of the SpaceX ITS and its engines despite the reports mention of the New Glenn vehicle.In the case of ITS you need a scaled down version to serve as a SLS CBC.

I believe there is a use for SLS development funding put to use to move up work on the proposed future SLS CBC competition.This funding now has been delegated to the SLS EUS stage instead. J.Goff Et al has proposed that this EUS could have been a very large ACES stage a sentiment I share.This is a lost opportunity I believe.

In the case of the SLS CBC, there would be synergies of scale in Vulcan or STS derived CBC’s that could not only capitalize “commercial space” but use that SLS capital to venture forth on private journeys to the inner solar system.I am fond of both STS and a Vulcan CBC does to the possibility of cross feeding LCH4 into the LH2 propellant tank in the core stage.However, a Falcon XX with its dense RP-1 could do the job better.This would increase the production of the engines to yet another contractor.

What I am about to propose would cost money and that would be to have a flyoff SLS CBC competition!  At least two contractors would fly their CBC on at least 1 flight of the SLS, The contract would specify that the government is looking to increase the industrial base of engines and vehicles with an EELV or commercial goal in mind and/or the engines or vehicles are meeting an exploration goal.This means reviving the F1 or proposing a one-off solution with a product that has no other use would score poorly.The Government, of course, means the DOD as well so the Air Force EELV contracting office should have a seat at the table

Funding for R & D could go like this; NASA 80% AF 5% contractor 15% in exchange for so many future orders

The Vulcan derived SLS CBC would be a larger launch vehicle so this could be a joint ULA/Blue venture.The SpaceX ITS already in the works could be the competitor.In this case, the competition could allow the reverse funding order

ULA/Blue 75%

SpaceX 75%

NASA 20% AF 5%

Two CBC contractors would fly for a decade or two with the SLS core stage

The social contract is SLS subsidizes the private journey to mars with the government’s vehicles.perhaps this should be called the RLS or Rappolee Lunch system 🙂 After all, I have done a much better job of handing out jobs to every congressional district out there and my thoughts are that using SpaceX engines and Blue Origin engines that are in use on their other vehicles stand the most chance of bringing those costs down.ULA has pie charts with engine costs as a percentage of the stage costs to manufacture.

I have blogged in the past about SSME/RS-25 as an EELV reusable engine but those folks are very stubborn when it comes to the very idea of Public/Private partnerships and I fear that it may not be possible to plan on anything from them except an RS-25E CBC, this, however, would be a suboptimum Delta IV on steroids at sea level.SLS needs LCH4 CBC’s.

“Beyond the RD-180.” n.d. Web. 25 Mar. 2017. <;

Post RD-180 study

Notes for a future blog entry, A Vulcan 56/ACES can loft more than a Delta IV first stage at 28 Mt that has been converted into a space station. According to space launch report, a Delta IV first stage at burn out is 27 Mt and the Vulcan 551 can loft 17.3 Mt to LEO.Why the entire first stage? the intertank area is more real estate for docking mechanisms and the structures around the tanks can serve as micrometeorite protection.Space launch report tells us the Delta IV LH2 tank is made of 5 segments so let’s say that’s 5.4 Mt per segment? Atlas V could loft a shorter Delta LH2 tank with fewer segments with an adapter.

Real estate is docking mechanisms, geometry, and volumes.I see a future propellant tank derived space stations with docking ports at the aft and forward ends and the intertank regions, we sell these to (Bigelow?) & the ISS.Geometry is the asset to sell of distance/length from ISS obstructions to follow on docking partners.The Delta IV first stage is 36.6 meters so this places intertank and aft docking ports some distance away from ISS solar arrays.LH2 propellant tanks have large volumes that would complement greatly the customers.

Kyle, Ed. “Delta IV Data Sheet.” 18 Mar. 2017. Web. 25 Mar. 2017.


Kyle, Ed. “Vulcan Data Sheet.” 15 Nov. 2015. Web. 25 Mar. 2017.


ULA ACES ICE & Telsa Powerwall as part of a luanchpad cogeneration of flare gas

ULA ACAS ICE & Telsa Powerwall as part of a launchpad cogeneration of flare gas

(A)(1) Launch site flare gas is now lost to the ATM, without energy recovery. ULA and Telsa technologies could burn these flare gasses to produce electricity and store it for sell at peak power demand and prices.(A)(2) mass produced ULA ICE engines and Tesla powerwalls for this terrestrial application spreads the costs over many units.ULA and SpaceX could agree to use these two products across all launch sites they  control with an agreement.This Tesla ULA combination can also coogenerate power at SLS and other launch sites.

(A)(C) with out storage or little storage of GH2 and GO2 at the flare sites . many ULA ICE engines would need to be produced

(A)(D) or how many safe gases storage units would need to be made, trades?

(A) E) these ideas make since if the florida and california luanch rates increase. this increases launch site boil off of flare gas, it make since at spaceX Texas site to .

Serially produced ice giant planetary probes and components

Serially produced ice giant planetary probes and components

(A)(1) conduct a unfunded RFP to ascertain cost engineering for flight spares beyond a two spacecraft buy for ice giant missions.flight spares are to be construed as spacecraft Bus and a docked ARRM derived SEP stage.

(A)(2) compete ARRM derived SEP for Mars MRO follow on and 4 more serially produced SEP for outer solar system missions.These are all government provided equipment to the AO not counted towards mission caps.(3) two providers build flight units for competition into the future.(A)(3) serially produce those items most sensitive to price drops due to serially production and a single contracted purchase,perhaps propellant tanks and the spacecraft bus structure itself would lend themselves to this.(A)(4) funding under a grand unified AO would purchase these lead items for a third and  fourth Ice Giant spacecraft;These spacecraft would likely become under sub competed AO’s to SBAG and ROW targets. This together with the serially produced COPAP atmospheric probes should answer 80 to 90 or better of minimum scientific goals as set by OPAG and SBAG communities.(A)(5) This purchasing formula together with a grand unified AO with follow on sub competed AO’s should also allow for follow-on missions back to Saturn and the Ice Giants with updated avionics and flight computers and science instruments.The 3rd and 4th Ice Giant spacecraft would observe a different set of SBAG/ROW targets and KBO targets after and during the prime missions.

COPAP; Common outer planet atmosphere probe are serially produced, build 5 for Jupiter, Saturn, Titan, Uranus, decadal survey order of preference is  Saturn, Uranus Neptune.

CACNCUR, Cryogenic ACES Neon cooled university ride share IR telescopes

PBOFTS, ?  I wrote this term at OPAG Feb 2017 but can not recall the meaning perhaps “Previously bought off the shelf”

%d bloggers like this: