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Bay Area Recovered Water Funded Pumped storage Agency (BARWF PSA)

So let’s examine the idea San Francisco creates 80 Million gallons of treated water, The other bay area communities generate (placeholder) generate more. 80 MGD


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The North San Mateo County Sanitation District 8 MGD dry season 25 MGD wet season

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Sewer Authority Mid-Coastside (SAM) 2 MGD


Silicon Valley Clean Water 108 MGD


Regional Water Quality Control Plant (Palo Alto) 39 MGD


WWTP | Clean Water Program San Mateo 60 MGD

City of San Mateo SSMP 2015

San Francisco Public Utilities Commission  80 MGD


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Our grand plan is that the wastewater would be sent uphill locally in San Francisco in the early hours of the Morning and that this water would generate power during peak hours. Local water after its generated power would recharge groundwater and indirectly recharge the local waste reservoirs. Some of the local treated wastewater could recharge San Francisco creeks. It should be mentioned that San Francisco local creeks where seasonal so that the greater pumped storage project might be required.

Most of the Regionals wastewater would be pumped uphill to storage facilities that would discharge into the drinking water reservoir system after flowing through the power generator this would not be local water but  all of our treated wastewater discharged into the San Andreas, crystal springs reservoir and the Pilersitos  reservoir


We wish to study treated wastewater from those members of the BAWSCA who are a part of the BAWSCA freshwater projects. A pump storage wastewater storage project means that the member organizations have an indirect fresh water supply. Traditional pumped storage facilities involve billions of dollars in reservoirs at high elevations but current battery storage technologies would eliminate this leaving only the piping systems and due to lack of a purpose-built reservoir a much smaller turbine

The water instead would flow to freshwater reservoirs already built and to stream restoration and groundwater recharge. treated water would be pumped uphill all day except for during peak power periods and the Telsa Giga battery would sell power during peak period prices. The system should pay for itself with power sales and reuse 200 Million gallons a day of treated wastewater delivered to the existing bay area water reservoirs. 

It also makes sense for the 200 Million gallons a day to be pumped uphill utilizing solar and wind power.

The original wastewater pumped storage post is here  Bay Area Recovered Water Funded Pumped storage Agency (BARWF PSA) SpaceX propellent tanks mass produced as shipboard water and LNG Build the ships at NASSCO shipyards in San Diego!


As a reference, Raccoon Mountain pumped storage project built and operated by the TVA has 107 Million gallons that produce 1,632 megawatts San Francisco Bay Area might represent 3,260 megawatts produced and stored in batteries






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2015-16 BAWSCA Audited Financial Statements – CALLP Final


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ULA ACES ESPA cost engineering and business model & Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration Technologys ESOP

The OPAG Ice Giant study group has 13 science instruments and avionics/comnav cost engineered at $700 million this comes out to $54 million per instrument.Our business model would be to divide up this cost in 3 to 4 ways.Dividing up the instruments 4 ways places about 3 instruments in each group of cost engineered funding payment modes.

(A)(1) mode one is the NASA Salmon instrument flight opportunity where 3 instruments fly for 1/4th the total mission costs or about $250 Million.This would be competitively put out through a salmon AO.The question would be wich instruments the NASA customer want to use for this process? All 13 instruments and three are chosen or NASA picks out three instruments for the AO bid process?$250 Million mostly upfront in early phases of the spacecraft build over 5 years before launch.$50 Million per year.This could also be an in-kind Salmon purchased instruments that pay a rideshare fee or $17 Million per year per instrument.

(A)(2) NASA data purchase of $250 Million payable over the life of the Mission of 15 years from three additional instruments, $17 Million per year over 15 years

(A)(3) The International community up for three to four instruments equipment in-kind with a rideshare fee payable to us equivalent to the costs of the launch vehicle and ACES  at 1/4th and operations costs plus a profit.So an in-kind donation of $250 million for science payloads

(A)(4) Some instruments are within reach of private foundations and university indeed some instruments might be cheaper than University funded telescopes.Three smaller instruments like the ice giant study groups proposed Magnatometer could be in-kind equipment with a rideshare fee

Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration technologies borrow $1.3 Billion that accrues to a Leveraged ESOP.Deductions are made to this sum for in-kind equipment transferred to the project.As many as 6 instruments might be in-kind so between $300 to $400 Million need not be borrowed by the leveraged ESOP.In the case of the 3 instruments that we are selling data with the ESOP company would purchase these along with the ULA ACES spacecraft.What instrument has the most data values? would the customer be willing to pay for that additional value? To us, the most valuable instruments would be the science imaging cameras.The ESOP company would hire our own PI for these, however, we would like to point out that idea from previous posts on this blog that those PI’s would be co-employees with the ESOP and their home institutions.As the ESOP debt is paid down the science investigators and engineers would vest in the success of the ESOP pension plan

Our goal would be to use profits earned after ESOP debt retirement and employee pension payouts to invest in the serial production of more ACES/ESPA spacecraft and those instruments we have purchased, ICE giant spacecraft should be able to share the same 13 instruments at Neptune Uranus and a return to Saturn ditto Jupiter flyby science in route

Last week we wrote about a ULA ACES with ESPA rings both forward and aft of the ACES the aft ESPA ring held connections for an ACES solar array that powers a onboard SEP engine.The Xenon is kept cryogenic to save the weight of the propellant tank mass and is cryocooled by the ACES LH2 After 5 AU the solar array/ESPA ring detaches.In the case of Saturn, we keep this solar array ring so that some RTGs can descend to Titan with an ESPA ring in a floating HIAD on a Titan sea.Hopefully, the very long descent by parachute would allow the HIAD to cool 🙂 The HIAD is our flotation mechanism and the ESPA ring provides the structure to the landed instruments.Perhaps a modest submarine on a tether could be deployed and retrieved

Year 1                        Year 2                 Year 3

$17 Million

$17 Million           in progress………….

$17 Million

$17 Million

In-kind furnished instruments with rideshare fee







What we should do next 2.0 ?

(A)(1) Investigate with ground based systems miscibility of noble ullage gases with cryogenic LH2, LO2 and LCH4

(A)(2) investigate mixing of noble gas ullage with Cryogenic propellants over hours, days and  weeks

(B)(1) investigate in space liquefaction/fractionation machinery in conjunction with a zero boil off unit.

(B)(2) this machinery would be used to process gasses H2 and O2 out of noble ullage/ion propellant in hybrid chemical ion powered systems; investigate with ground based experiments a Liquid air fractionation unit

(B)(3) removal of noble elements out of LH2 and LO2 in the case of a chemical refueling of a hybrid powered stage

(C)(1) investigate with ground based experiments with removing Noble gasses from Nitrogen oxygen gases in the case of habitat’s being re-purposed as ion propellant tank.This is also done with an in space liquid air liquefaction/fraternization system. 


(D)(1) We need to use a ground based experiment to study of Noble gas ullage/Ion propellants with hypergolic propellants; If these behave better on longer term missions and behave better on miscible issues then Hyperbolic chemical/ion powered hybrid stages then we could in future do trades with cryogenic ion powered hybrids

(E)(1) The ground based Air liquefaction/fractionation unit leads the way to IRSU of rocks.Imagine the system at work on a landed hybrid propellent Xues/Centuat lander coupled to a Oxygen production system.

(F)(1) Air Liquefaction/Fractionation unit allows for the GH2/GO2/GCH4 in the propellent tanks to be separated from one another and fed to both The IVF and Ion propulsion systems since we envision that both systems are present and that both use the same propellent and oxidizer  tanks.

EDIT 16 March 2016

(G) (1) Does Noble element ice sink or float in cryogenic oxidisers or propellant? I think if large Noble element ice forms it sinks


Rooftop rain harvesting & Aquaculture

TNDC rain water collection

Rooftop rain retention could be utilized by combined aquaculture aquaponics systems. The Google earth measurement tool tells me that the TNDC buildings at Taylor Street and Eddy might be producing 400,000 gallons of rooftop rainwater per year!





San Francisco Water Power Sewer Diablo Canyon Nuclear power plant ownership plan

PG&E claims to see no value in the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant after 2024, They propose to close it. We claim the plant does have value after 2024 as a carbon-neutral power source.

So we think this power plant could be a subsidiary and property of the city and county San Francisco and PG&E in bankruptcy court would be contracted to renew the NRA license

Tenderloin Power and Heat Cooperative

Tenderloin Power and Heat Cooperative

Tenderloin Heat and Power Coop

Powerhouse under the intersection of Eddy Street and Taylor Street would generate electricity for sale to the grid and the provision of hot water and central air to everyone. We would all own this system as coop members. Most likely we are selling power to San Francisco clean power as a partly green power provider.

The idea is that a passive under the street geothermal system would produce hot water (preheated boiler water)for a Natural gas electrical power station under tenderloin intersections. We would like to use renewable fuels if possible. The power station would heat and cool Tenderloin buildings thus making our neighborhood PG&E free. This Geothermal cogeneration is a triple hybrid system.




Tenderloin Heat and power coop district

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Campus under the street geothermal

district ground sourced geothermal systems under city streets

Natural gas with heat up the smokestack 30% efficiency

Natural gas with cogenerated heat & cooling with district  60% to 80% efficiency

Natural gas with geothermal preheated boiler water  99% efficiency?

We would in place these under Eddy & Taylor streets;


They provide latent heat to a Heat pump to provide preheated hot water to the electrical generator under the intersection of Eddy & Taylor street.

Human Landing System – Studies, Risk Reduction, Development and Demonstration

Solicitation Number: NNH19ZCQ001K_APP-E

We have proposed a hybrid Chemical/SEP  Lunar Gateway propulsion stage(PPE). We replace the high-pressure Xenon tanks with a traditional propellant tank with cryogenic Xenon and cooling the Xenon with Cryogenic Oxygen. So, in essence, we propose a solar array powered ACES upper stage with a SEP engine as the Gateway PPE. We think to replace many smaller high-pressure Xenon tanks save weight. Would need to do trades on this. The stage we propose would have a third Xenon propellant tank at the standard 41 PSI found in standard chemical tanks

This vehicle is a fuel depot

We have proposed that the ACES/SEP hybrid makes for many interesting trades for outer planet missions, You expend most of the Xenon in-route to an Ice Giant and with the ACES with most of its 60 Mt of LH2 LO2 still onboard you do that orbit insertion burn. The ACES/SEP stage does MECO on the way out of LEO so it is paid for by the launch services contract and does not come under AO under mission caps. We also propose robust avionics and comnav system designed for decades in deepspace be shared between the science and upper stage and this also come under the launch services contract. The Chemical burns to place the spacecraft outside the Van Allen belts SEP to HEO and Lunar swingby to Heliocentric orbit. We propose the ACES/SEP hybrid stage to have commonality with the Gateway PPE stage. Outer planet science instruments are attached to the ACES/SEP stage with a large ESPA ring

Human landing system

The ULA folks have with partners have proposed an upper stage lunar lander concept called “ZEUS” We propose the ACES/SEP stage as the latest variant.SEP to ferry a fully fueled lander

This lander would have the same con-ops as the missions described above IE it performs MECO and a chemical Burn to above the Van Allen belts and a SEP burn to lunar orbit without a crew aboard.


This architecture works with;

Falcon Heavy with a Methane Raptor upper stage

New Glen upper stage

The human lunar lander private-public partnership AO is out today

Human Landing system

Please see the guiding principles below




From Page 6  explains why a common upper stage science probe that shares substantial commonality with a cislunar economy Tug makes the most sense.


NASA’s activities in enabling the pioneering of space are being driven by a set of guiding principles:

FISCAL REALISM: Implementable in the near-term with the buying power of current budgets and in the longer term with budgets commensurate with economic growth;

SCIENTIFIC EXPLORATION: Exploration enables science and science enables exploration; leveraging scientific expertise for human exploration of the solar system. A duel use human/cargo hybrid cryogenic/SEP space tug can also be used for interplanetary probes.

TECHNOLOGY PULL AND PUSH: Application of high Technology Readiness Level (TRL) technologies for near term missions, while focusing sustained investments on technologies and capabilities to address the challenges of future missions; If the Hybrid Cryogenic/SEP hybrid was the Gateway PPE stage then the stage could be manufactured for many other uses including for the SMD.

GRADUAL BUILD UP OF CAPABILITY: Near-term mission opportunities with a defined cadence of compelling and integrated human and robotic missions, providing for an incremental buildup of capabilities for more complex missions over time; For the purpose of the human lander our proposal is both the lander and the transfer stage IE ACES/SEP this scenario you have expended or transferred the Xenon to the gateway Fuel depot and land with just the cryogenic propellant 

ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY: Opportunities for U.S. commercial business to further enhance their experience and business base; Deep space planetary science providers along with NASA centers and JPL would be a commercial government partnership effort.

ARCHITECTURE OPENNESS AND RESILENCE: Resilient architecture featuring multi-use, evolvable space infrastructure, minimizing unique developments, with each mission leaving something behind to support subsequent missions;

GLOBAL COLLABORATION AND LEADERSHIP: Substantial new international and commercial partnerships, leveraging current International Space Station partnerships and building new cooperative ventures for exploration; and

CONTINUITY OF HUMAN SPACEFLIGHT: Uninterrupted expansion of human presence into the solar system by establishing a regular cadence of crewed missions to cislunar space during ISS lifetime.



Third Party Leverage ESOP to Fund R&D

My Post 9/11 veteran owned concern is the company in the accounting rules discussed below in the NCEO ESOP accounting guide


We have borrowed/Leveraged $400 Million in order to purchase R&D from SpaceX and ULA and Blue Origin, In return, we need “an offset” The Term offset has meaning in the international arms trade here we repurpose the meaning. When we contract with our partners we are mostly utilizing their employees so when those employees are working on our contracts they become co-employees. When they are not working on our contracts they are only ULA, SpaceX or Blue Origin Employees.

We are not proposing that an ESOP be set up at the partners at this time. I do recommend an ESOP feasibility study for future times. Its important for my post 9/11 veteran company to be engaged with all of you so the employment relationship is not seen by the IRS and ERISA or by the SEC as a de facto merged company, also my company being independent means less a chance of a co-employee having a shareholder cause of action against our partners.

So we make our way back to the Offset agreement, we are purchasing your R&D in order to bring forward the ACES upper stage, the Starship, The New Glenn sooner rather than later. SpaceX was unable to bring in $700 to $500 Million in new financing. We can do this only if the ESOP is guaranteed to be able to pay off the leveraged ESOP loan. This is part of the offset agreement, over 20 or so years the partner pays my company back this money plus an APR good enough to diversify and pay operating expenses. However, the offset is more complicated than just this because our banks would want you to sign agreements that would look very much like loan agreements. The Offset agreement would provide for mutual relinquishment of this obligation by obtaining customers, how to do that?

My post 9/11 owned firm would seek customers to offset our partner’s obligation to pay our leveraged ESOP and the best way to do that would be to purchase the end result of the partners R&D perhaps we think by purchasing at very good prices our partners gently used launch vehicles at end of their economic life

The Offset part three is that the partners sell to us used the first stages of the Starship and New Glenn and here again in part act as Anchor tenants. Most likely NASA is a partial Anchor tenant and the partner’s partial anchor tenant. If the ESOP company on its own can wean itself from just being a conduit of a tax-free bank loan to a customer  and into a customer of our partners we are making that bridge into the cislunar economy

The idea of using propellant tanks into space stations is not new, we propose that New Glenn and Starship first stages as wet lab SSTO stages are the goal. This is new!


The best space station is one preconceived as one like Skylab. It was a purpose built dry lab. Our business case works best with a ULA or Blue Origin or Starship Dry lab space station. This then is the cost driver a New Glenn dry lab space station goes up first then this is our base to refurbish in orbit the wet lab first stage. Many argue this should be pioneered at the ISS. Imagine the sight of BFR, New Glenn, and Centaur dry labs at ISS and their first stages docked to one another. The dry lab station provides support to rehab of the wet lab first stages.

Steven Rappolee
Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration technologies at A post 9/11 Veteran owned concern
Address VA CBOC 401 3rd St, San Francisco, CA 94107
Mobile 415 424 1455
Email Website





cryogenic Florine as a propellant in the Cislurnar economy

cryogenic Florine as a propellant in the Cislurnar economy

There is Fluorine in compounds and minerals on the Lunar surface, possibly it would be safe to use in deep space as a propellant?



Blue Origins Hybrid Wet and Dry New Glenn Skylab Station



(A)The proposed New Glenn Skylab would have a second stage wet lab with a dry lab space station making up the balance of allowable dry mass including the payload fairing, Under the payload fairing is only a docking port and a Space Shuttle Canada arm.

The available dry mass is both the wet lab and dry lab injected to just outside the Van Allen belts.

(B)The amount of propellant in the wet lab second stage is reduced or the volume of the second stage propellant tanks are reduced in favor of a larger dry lab. This stays in LEO and a second dedicated wet lab docks with it and sends it into an HEO. Possibly engines reduced to 1.

The second stage is 16.1 meters and 7 meters in diameter the proposed PLF is 29.9 Meters for a total of 47 meters. We propose not to use the PLF as a payload shroud but as a deployed solar array***. (there is no payload) This most likely means we can extend the Second stage dry lab to more than 16.1 meters.***This the concept we call Rappolee flowers        rappolee-flowers-payload-fairing-deployed-arbitrarily-large-structures/

The New Glenn can do 45,000 Kg to LEO we propose a wet lab/Drylab Hybrid of differing configurations. The dry mass of the second stage is with the PLF  no doubt less than this and there are likely restrictions on the maximum height of the New Glenn, we think therefore that we have leeway to have a number of docking ports and hatches between the propellant tanks of both the dry and wet lab tanks. If the trades favor a dry lab then we need to explore the third idea.

(C) (a)A New Glenn lofts a second stage that is itself a wet lab that docks with the New Glenn skylab in orbit. It docks with the NG skylab and takes us out to HEO and beyond the Van Allen belts. As suggested it remains docked for outfitting as a wet lab. This wet lab is a tanker and as such could also sport a PLF Rappolee flower. (C)(b)Lastly, we have blogged about this many times before and that is what is the dry mass of the New Glenn first stage? without a payload can it do an SSTO mission? BFR and New Glenn first stages cry out for this final reuse after the economic life is over! A first stage wet lab to SSTO only needs a docking mechanism and as much dry mass as we can be given. Would we have an enough SSTO dry mass for a Rappolee flower PLF on a first stage to orbit?


The end product is a Blue Origin New Glenn based space station with a two-second stage based dry and wet lab and a used First stage SSTO wet lab. Possibly remove some engines? Possibly add SRB or CBC to core stage?




Mars Polar propellant depot and Mars point to point propellant transfer

The Mars poles may enable faster timescales for propellant production, Might enable easier access to Ice feedstocks so what would be the trades for using BFR to transport the propellant to other parts of Mars?

You are Hopping the BFR from the poles to the rest of Mars so its pace of polar propellant production Minus the propellant used to Hop the BFR to another location. Our power source is assumed to be the nuclear powered E Sleds from the previous post.



E Sled as Planetary polar rover

E sled as Mars polar rover

We propose a Tesla motor derived E Sled as a Mars Polar Lander. SpaceX might be the customer that resales the Data collected to a NASA anchor tenant. A Tesla motor would make for a large rover but most likely will need an RTG/Sterling and battery.

This system might be made to have buoyancy for Titan?  (Titan tours Duck E Sled 🙂 ) This would need some thoughts on characterizing the cryogenic Titan dunes to inform us as to interactions with the E Sled tractor system


This system might work on Lunar or Mercury Polar craters?

This system would need to be modified for rougher surfaces and cryogenic conditions

We need trades with a kilo power or decadel survey small fission reactor and the proposed RTG/Sterling battery idea. Any of the three systems above if flown represents a breakthrough for all other future missions

An E Sled sidecar could carry INsight type geology instruments to be dropped off and retrieved and redeployed


Proposed R & D partners


The above is my post 9/11 veteran owned concern




Aurora Powertrains /Finland/ESA











Next Post; The Poles of Mars as a fuel depot &  point to point fuel transfer! What are the maths for this idea?

We are citizens for expanding the University of California system

I wrote the powerpoint below some time ago, I think the idea of doing another round of voter-approved regenerative medicine bonds could fund the establishment of 3 or 4 graduate only UC
Campuses and their buildings that would surround the regenerative medicine campus owned by the new UC campuses would be amortized by federal research grants

I believe that in my old powerpoint I was advocating that these new medical research UC campuses would have medical schools. These should be free of tuition for those students who agree to practice in California under a number of conditions IE you must take Medi-Cal and Medicare patients.

Idea! A new round of Institute of Regenerative Medicine bonds could be repaid with UC  federal NIH research funding IE UC would own those buildings.

Over the following decades, Undergraduate programs would follow and expand these campuses



we are citizens for expanding the university of

New ideas post my original powerpoint, I believe strongly in a voter-approved geographical new UC campus siting plan

UCE University of California at Eureka a geographically remote area in need of economic development. Has that inspirational land and sea that humans love.

UCM UC Merced accelerate the planned school of medicine with a graduate school for research

Future blog article;   The BC Canada system of on and off system of academic and employment system my version of economic equality. The idea local community college admits certified nursing assistants these graduates have guaranteed admittance to the two-year nursing program. While in this program the UC partner employs them as work study or interns but only as fully pension health care employees. We are proposing a coop education/employee system. All of these student/ employees are guaranteed transfer to the UC Nursing to the UC nursing student is a coop student.


semester 1 CNA student

Semester 2 paid work-study/coop at the nearby UC hospital

Semester 3 CNA/two-year nursing transition

semester 4 paid coop semester as a UC hospital  employee

semester 5 two years nursing student 1 and a half semester  of CNA

Semesters 6 UC hospital employee as a nursing student

semester 7 second/third semester as a two-year Nursing student transfer to or in a 4-year degree program

semester 8 UC employment at UC hospital as a Nursing intern

Semester 9 4th year Nursing semester have the right to transfer to Medical school or another grad program


Alternative California coop programs,

The California guard SMP program  and military ROTC  will offer  those who decline a 4-year scholarship but finish the degree a tuition-free






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