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Bay Area Recovered Water Funded Pumped storage Agency (BARWF PSA)

So let’s examine the idea San Francisco creates 80 Million gallons of treated water, The other bay area communities generate (placeholder) generate more. 80 MGD


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The North San Mateo County Sanitation District 8 MGD dry season 25 MGD wet season

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Sewer Authority Mid-Coastside (SAM) 2 MGD


Silicon Valley Clean Water 108 MGD


Regional Water Quality Control Plant (Palo Alto) 39 MGD


WWTP | Clean Water Program San Mateo 60 MGD

City of San Mateo SSMP 2015

San Francisco Public Utilities Commission  80 MGD


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Our grand plan is that the wastewater would be sent uphill locally in San Francisco in the early hours of the Morning and that this water would generate power during peak hours. Local water after its generated power would recharge groundwater and indirectly recharge the local waste reservoirs. Some of the local treated wastewater could recharge San Francisco creeks. It should be mentioned that San Francisco local creeks where seasonal so that the greater pumped storage project might be required.

Most of the Regionals wastewater would be pumped uphill to storage facilities that would discharge into the drinking water reservoir system after flowing through the power generator this would not be local water but  all of our treated wastewater discharged into the San Andreas, crystal springs reservoir and the Pilersitos  reservoir


We wish to study treated wastewater from those members of the BAWSCA who are a part of the BAWSCA freshwater projects. A pump storage wastewater storage project means that the member organizations have an indirect fresh water supply. Traditional pumped storage facilities involve billions of dollars in reservoirs at high elevations but current battery storage technologies would eliminate this leaving only the piping systems and due to lack of a purpose-built reservoir a much smaller turbine

The water instead would flow to freshwater reservoirs already built and to stream restoration and groundwater recharge. treated water would be pumped uphill all day except for during peak power periods and the Telsa Giga battery would sell power during peak period prices. The system should pay for itself with power sales and reuse 200 Million gallons a day of treated wastewater delivered to the existing bay area water reservoirs. 

It also makes sense for the 200 Million gallons a day to be pumped uphill utilizing solar and wind power.

The original wastewater pumped storage post is here  Bay Area Recovered Water Funded Pumped storage Agency (BARWF PSA) SpaceX propellent tanks mass produced as shipboard water and LNG Build the ships at NASSCO shipyards in San Diego!


As a reference, Raccoon Mountain pumped storage project built and operated by the TVA has 107 Million gallons that produce 1,632 megawatts San Francisco Bay Area might represent 3,260 megawatts produced and stored in batteries






2016 State of Regional Water System Report_Final_Sept 2016



2015-16 BAWSCA Audited Financial Statements – CALLP Final


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ULA ACES ESPA cost engineering and business model & Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration Technologys ESOP

The OPAG Ice Giant study group has 13 science instruments and avionics/comnav cost engineered at $700 million this comes out to $54 million per instrument.Our business model would be to divide up this cost in 3 to 4 ways.Dividing up the instruments 4 ways places about 3 instruments in each group of cost engineered funding payment modes.

(A)(1) mode one is the NASA Salmon instrument flight opportunity where 3 instruments fly for 1/4th the total mission costs or about $250 Million.This would be competitively put out through a salmon AO.The question would be wich instruments the NASA customer want to use for this process? All 13 instruments and three are chosen or NASA picks out three instruments for the AO bid process?$250 Million mostly upfront in early phases of the spacecraft build over 5 years before launch.$50 Million per year.This could also be an in-kind Salmon purchased instruments that pay a rideshare fee or $17 Million per year per instrument.

(A)(2) NASA data purchase of $250 Million payable over the life of the Mission of 15 years from three additional instruments, $17 Million per year over 15 years

(A)(3) The International community up for three to four instruments equipment in-kind with a rideshare fee payable to us equivalent to the costs of the launch vehicle and ACES  at 1/4th and operations costs plus a profit.So an in-kind donation of $250 million for science payloads

(A)(4) Some instruments are within reach of private foundations and university indeed some instruments might be cheaper than University funded telescopes.Three smaller instruments like the ice giant study groups proposed Magnatometer could be in-kind equipment with a rideshare fee

Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration technologies borrow $1.3 Billion that accrues to a Leveraged ESOP.Deductions are made to this sum for in-kind equipment transferred to the project.As many as 6 instruments might be in-kind so between $300 to $400 Million need not be borrowed by the leveraged ESOP.In the case of the 3 instruments that we are selling data with the ESOP company would purchase these along with the ULA ACES spacecraft.What instrument has the most data values? would the customer be willing to pay for that additional value? To us, the most valuable instruments would be the science imaging cameras.The ESOP company would hire our own PI for these, however, we would like to point out that idea from previous posts on this blog that those PI’s would be co-employees with the ESOP and their home institutions.As the ESOP debt is paid down the science investigators and engineers would vest in the success of the ESOP pension plan

Our goal would be to use profits earned after ESOP debt retirement and employee pension payouts to invest in the serial production of more ACES/ESPA spacecraft and those instruments we have purchased, ICE giant spacecraft should be able to share the same 13 instruments at Neptune Uranus and a return to Saturn ditto Jupiter flyby science in route

Last week we wrote about a ULA ACES with ESPA rings both forward and aft of the ACES the aft ESPA ring held connections for an ACES solar array that powers a onboard SEP engine.The Xenon is kept cryogenic to save the weight of the propellant tank mass and is cryocooled by the ACES LH2 After 5 AU the solar array/ESPA ring detaches.In the case of Saturn, we keep this solar array ring so that some RTGs can descend to Titan with an ESPA ring in a floating HIAD on a Titan sea.Hopefully, the very long descent by parachute would allow the HIAD to cool 🙂 The HIAD is our flotation mechanism and the ESPA ring provides the structure to the landed instruments.Perhaps a modest submarine on a tether could be deployed and retrieved

Year 1                        Year 2                 Year 3

$17 Million

$17 Million           in progress………….

$17 Million

$17 Million

In-kind furnished instruments with rideshare fee







What we should do next 2.0 ?

(A)(1) Investigate with ground based systems miscibility of noble ullage gases with cryogenic LH2, LO2 and LCH4

(A)(2) investigate mixing of noble gas ullage with Cryogenic propellants over hours, days and  weeks

(B)(1) investigate in space liquefaction/fractionation machinery in conjunction with a zero boil off unit.

(B)(2) this machinery would be used to process gasses H2 and O2 out of noble ullage/ion propellant in hybrid chemical ion powered systems; investigate with ground based experiments a Liquid air fractionation unit

(B)(3) removal of noble elements out of LH2 and LO2 in the case of a chemical refueling of a hybrid powered stage

(C)(1) investigate with ground based experiments with removing Noble gasses from Nitrogen oxygen gases in the case of habitat’s being re-purposed as ion propellant tank.This is also done with an in space liquid air liquefaction/fraternization system. 


(D)(1) We need to use a ground based experiment to study of Noble gas ullage/Ion propellants with hypergolic propellants; If these behave better on longer term missions and behave better on miscible issues then Hyperbolic chemical/ion powered hybrid stages then we could in future do trades with cryogenic ion powered hybrids

(E)(1) The ground based Air liquefaction/fractionation unit leads the way to IRSU of rocks.Imagine the system at work on a landed hybrid propellent Xues/Centuat lander coupled to a Oxygen production system.

(F)(1) Air Liquefaction/Fractionation unit allows for the GH2/GO2/GCH4 in the propellent tanks to be separated from one another and fed to both The IVF and Ion propulsion systems since we envision that both systems are present and that both use the same propellent and oxidizer  tanks.

EDIT 16 March 2016

(G) (1) Does Noble element ice sink or float in cryogenic oxidisers or propellant? I think if large Noble element ice forms it sinks


Tesla Model S induction reluctance motor for Torque power for Farm Tractors and implements

Hypothesis; Biomethane produced from farms could power electrical power and with battery storage could power farm equipment. This could be a carbon neutral method to produce Ethanal for vehicles and needs a study of new combinations of polyculture

Example, motor vehicle Ethanol may, in fact, be a net CO2 producer due to the use of fossil fuels in tractors and transport of the Ethanol. Coproducing Soybeans with dairy or beef or pigs would result in Biomethane to power the tractors that in turn produces the soybeans

When market forces change  such as a drop in Soybean prices then feed more of it to the animals

This is an exciting video of a biomethane powered tractor but I think a Tesla motor powered tractor might last longer?


What would be the economic trades of a farm-based solar powered and charged Tesla motor tractor? The solar system could augment the Biomethane power plant.

Tesla soy sauce 🙂 value-added products are often the way for farmers and their Coops to thrive. People have made white soy sauce from brewers mash so perhaps something could be made from Ethanal soybean mash?

In the case of Ethanal, I conflicted soybeans with corn so our hybrid farm powerplant needs to grow corn! Biodiesel, however, is an inefficient production process so you would want to use the corn vegetable oil to power

Farm power plant as an example would cover its silos in solar electric panels and the roof of the food processing plant


We need to have an experimental Tesla/Solar city agricultural experiment center I think you could get DOE and USDA funding to much of the costs 🙂

Question for Stack Exchange how many cows to produce enough Methane for a BFR or Launch?

This Dairy farm is vertically integrated with the Methane powering the farm and cheese factory

If the farm Implements where all solar powered then the Dairy cow manure could power launch vehicles

Pig Poop rocket propellent




Tesla Model S induction reluctance motor for solar powered sailboats (The solar-powered Marina power station)

Tesla Model S induction reluctance motor for solar-powered sailboats (The Solar Powerd Marina Power station)

We sail for fun! But a deployable solar array on your sail would produce a lot of power! So your sailboat would require a lot of Tesla storage batteries perhaps as ballast? Once back at the Marina you would want to dump this power back into the grid.

We sail for fun! This means we do use the sailboat’s engine some of the time but here we propose to model the Tesla S Induction Reluctance Motor onboard the sailboat. The boat is much heavier than the car but it is displacing seawater and travels much slower so what would be the distance traveled per charge?

Assuming the existence of a deployable sail solar voltaic cells what is the surface area of a sailboat sail? and power produced?

If the sailboat replaced its ballast(The Kiel) That would a  very large Tesla Battery storage so we would need to compute payback periods. We need to compute time the sailboat is in use. Some sailboats are for hire and would be out on the water often, these we propose could have a very large amount of battery storage aboard. The weekend recreational boat could have less battery storage onboard to reflect the lower frequency of unfurling the “power sail”

Someday soon we would want the Tesla customer to be able to sale back power through the Tesla charging grid.

This idea is criticized by the non-existence of a deployable solar powered sail! you cant have existing rigged photovoltaic on a sail flapping in the wind. I think this could be developed

Sail dimensions calculator

displacement calculator

One example of a sailboat sail area

Total sail area 91 m2 / 979.51 sq.ft.

A rooftop system of this size would produce 12,000 kWh per year

Our sailboat much less

in a perfect world where you are hiring out your sailboat every day for 6 or more hours with the perfect solar sail, you would be making $400 a month plus your paying guests

Here is an example that could be improved with Tesla motors and plugin



ICPS Gateway Wetlab

(A)(1) Option 1 place the ICPS into a DRO around the moon for storage for later use. (A)(2)Option 2 Orion does a TD&E maneuver with its ICPS stage after TLI with a Nanoracks docking unit

Close relationship to the ACES/SEP PPE gateway propulsion unit post,



ULA ACES/SEP hybrid Gateway PPE docked to a Vulcan First stage

ULA ACES/SEP hybrid Gateway PPE docked to a Vulcan First stage



La Cocina home care aid and entrepreneurship instructor COOP

Business case: La Cocina graduates entrepreneurs from its programs, when the business owner is not busy then as a community service for pay they teach an elderly or disabled person how to cook while helping them to cook. The Coop would be a for-profit home care agency

The Coop could have however full-time members who run this business as their main affair.








La Cocina

Dimensions and volume of a Cryogenic Zenon SEP propellant tank

All of these papers are for particle physics experiments. A cryogenic Xenon Tank embedded in a cryogenic chemical stage would have better mass fractions. Cryogenic Xenon would easily fit in a Hydrolox or Metholox in space stage

We propose a Hydrolox  SEP Gateway PPE stage!

it would also serve as a fuel depot and planetary probe, with a distributed launch and SEP you could get a fully fueled stage to an orbit injection burn at Pluto and the Ice Giants




2011 IEPC High Power SEP for Expl paper19910002485


From IEPC1991

Let us consider a few cases. We saw above that for tank pressure containment mass is inversely proportion ion engine operating on xenon at 5000  seconds I,p  signal to the propellant density. For the cryogenic case, at 30  kW, the tank heat load will need to be limited to one needs a somewhat larger safety factor because of 3  W. Liquid xenon has a density of 3.08 kg/I  at 165  K, possible temperature excursions, so using P = 3,  and so if we assume an initial 3000 kg  propellant load, the P =  1 atm = 101  kPa, we find that for a 3000 kg  initial tank will need a volume of 974 1. A  spherical tank of propellant load in a titanium tank, xenon will require this volume will have a radius of .61  m and a surface only 1.5 kg for pressure containment, helium will area of 4.75 m2 .


Vulcan Heavy center core to orbit as a distributed launch tanker and wet lab

Vulcan Heavy center core to orbit as a distributed launch tanker and wet lab

(1)(A) The mission is a fully fueled ACES at Ice giant orbit insertion. This is done by the core stage as a or with a tanker to send ACES with an outer planet mission

(1)(B) the secondary mission is the core stage in orbit as a wet lab space station

(1)(C) The engine could be a vacuum engine or EVA could remove and recover it



Migration and tidally locked dark side of planets as refugium from Red Dwarf flaring

Migration and tidally locked dark side of planets as refugium from Red Dwarf flaring


Imagine you are a migratory ocean-going organism on a tidally locked planet around a red dwarf that flares

Your star is trying to kill you

assuming the flare does not destroy your atmosphere over time a tidally locked planets dark side could be a watery refugium. The Refugium would repopulate sunlit ocean with microorganisms and larger swimming Metazoans could migrate in and out of the dark and lit ocean areas

(your star has already killed you)



Venus Gateway space station and Observation platform

We propose that the  PPE SEP stage of the proposed Lunar Gateway be used to transport and provide power to a Venus Radar imaging mission. We want to also demonstrate a COTS commercial procurement for Venus science.

The Gateway PPE would carry a larger version of The Venus Emissivity Mapper (VEM)  and the PPE would be joined later by human-tended Gateway modules. Human tended Venus missions could allow a campaign of Venus CubeSats with Nanoracks deployment. The VOX mission’s Atmospheric Sample Vehicle would be based on the Cupid Arrow probe concept and turn could be deployed from the Venus Gateway. The Venus Gateway human-tended platform could host the proposed Sentinal NEO observer cameras.

The Venus Gateway is a HEOMD funded program the science instruments are SMD funded



Shuttle Imaging Radar-A

Shuttle Imaging Radar-B

Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM)

GEO Gateway space station

I am off the opinion that the ISS is best kept in orbit through 2032 and that as many COTS providers as possible benefit from it
The requirement should be those COTS providers should invest in that cislunar economy
(Boeing step up to the plate please)
Its the COTS folks who might make it to Mars we hope ISS could be an indirect subsidy for this

I was blogging the other night and the thought occurred to me that the Lunar Gateway is better located in GEO Its here that the most economic activity occurs and future economic activity is most likely to occur. Satellite servicing and a Cryogenic Zenon propellent depot would make sense as a human-tended outpost. How big can comsats be? The GEO gateway could demonstrate a very large EVA assembled Comsat

I think I need to write a blog entry just on the GEO gateway to further refine human GEO synergies perhaps satellite recovery and refurbishment AKA DARPA (Humans and robotics)

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