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ULA ACES ESPA cost engineering and business model & Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration Technologys ESOP

The OPAG Ice Giant study group has 13 science instruments and avionics/comnav cost engineered at $700 million this comes out to $54 million per instrument.Our business model would be to divide up this cost in 3 to 4 ways.Dividing up the instruments 4 ways places about 3 instruments in each group of cost engineered funding payment modes.

(A)(1) mode one is the NASA Salmon instrument flight opportunity where 3 instruments fly for 1/4th the total mission costs or about $250 Million.This would be competitively put out through a salmon AO.The question would be wich instruments the NASA customer want to use for this process? All 13 instruments and three are chosen or NASA picks out three instruments for the AO bid process?$250 Million mostly upfront in early phases of the spacecraft build over 5 years before launch.$50 Million per year.This could also be an in-kind Salmon purchased instruments that pay a rideshare fee or $17 Million per year per instrument.

(A)(2) NASA data purchase of $250 Million payable over the life of the Mission of 15 years from three additional instruments, $17 Million per year over 15 years

(A)(3) The International community up for three to four instruments equipment in-kind with a rideshare fee payable to us equivalent to the costs of the launch vehicle and ACES  at 1/4th and operations costs plus a profit.So an in-kind donation of $250 million for science payloads

(A)(4) Some instruments are within reach of private foundations and university indeed some instruments might be cheaper than University funded telescopes.Three smaller instruments like the ice giant study groups proposed Magnatometer could be in-kind equipment with a rideshare fee

Terrestrial & Cislunar Exploration technologies borrow $1.3 Billion that accrues to a Leveraged ESOP.Deductions are made to this sum for in-kind equipment transferred to the project.As many as 6 instruments might be in-kind so between $300 to $400 Million need not be borrowed by the leveraged ESOP.In the case of the 3 instruments that we are selling data with the ESOP company would purchase these along with the ULA ACES spacecraft.What instrument has the most data values? would the customer be willing to pay for that additional value? To us, the most valuable instruments would be the science imaging cameras.The ESOP company would hire our own PI for these, however, we would like to point out that idea from previous posts on this blog that those PI’s would be co-employees with the ESOP and their home institutions.As the ESOP debt is paid down the science investigators and engineers would vest in the success of the ESOP pension plan

Our goal would be to use profits earned after ESOP debt retirement and employee pension payouts to invest in the serial production of more ACES/ESPA spacecraft and those instruments we have purchased, ICE giant spacecraft should be able to share the same 13 instruments at Neptune Uranus and a return to Saturn ditto Jupiter flyby science in route

Last week we wrote about a ULA ACES with ESPA rings both forward and aft of the ACES the aft ESPA ring held connections for an ACES solar array that powers a onboard SEP engine.The Xenon is kept cryogenic to save the weight of the propellant tank mass and is cryocooled by the ACES LH2 After 5 AU the solar array/ESPA ring detaches.In the case of Saturn, we keep this solar array ring so that some RTGs can descend to Titan with an ESPA ring in a floating HIAD on a Titan sea.Hopefully, the very long descent by parachute would allow the HIAD to cool 🙂 The HIAD is our flotation mechanism and the ESPA ring provides the structure to the landed instruments.Perhaps a modest submarine on a tether could be deployed and retrieved

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In-kind furnished instruments with rideshare fee








What we should do next 2.0 ?

(A)(1) Investigate with ground based systems miscibility of noble ullage gases with cryogenic LH2, LO2 and LCH4

(A)(2) investigate mixing of noble gas ullage with Cryogenic propellants over hours, days and  weeks

(B)(1) investigate in space liquefaction/fractionation machinery in conjunction with a zero boil off unit.

(B)(2) this machinery would be used to process gasses H2 and O2 out of noble ullage/ion propellant in hybrid chemical ion powered systems; investigate with ground based experiments a Liquid air fractionation unit

(B)(3) removal of noble elements out of LH2 and LO2 in the case of a chemical refueling of a hybrid powered stage

(C)(1) investigate with ground based experiments with removing Noble gasses from Nitrogen oxygen gases in the case of habitat’s being re-purposed as ion propellant tank.This is also done with an in space liquid air liquefaction/fraternization system. 


(D)(1) We need to use a ground based experiment to study of Noble gas ullage/Ion propellants with hypergolic propellants; If these behave better on longer term missions and behave better on miscible issues then Hyperbolic chemical/ion powered hybrid stages then we could in future do trades with cryogenic ion powered hybrids

(E)(1) The ground based Air liquefaction/fractionation unit leads the way to IRSU of rocks.Imagine the system at work on a landed hybrid propellent Xues/Centuat lander coupled to a Oxygen production system.

(F)(1) Air Liquefaction/Fractionation unit allows for the GH2/GO2/GCH4 in the propellent tanks to be separated from one another and fed to both The IVF and Ion propulsion systems since we envision that both systems are present and that both use the same propellent and oxidizer  tanks.

EDIT 16 March 2016

(G) (1) Does Noble element ice sink or float in cryogenic oxidisers or propellant? I think if large Noble element ice forms it sinks


Tesla planatery pressurized and unpressurized rovers a synergy between SpaceX and Tesla

The Hypothesis is that the NASA kilo power nuclear reactor could charge a Tesla battery and provide power to the Tesla designed planetary rover. The Tesla rover would be contracted by SpaceX and other customers to reconnoiter the areas around BFR landing sites

Perhaps the sharing of customers as a rover goes about its business makes sense

The NASA Kilopower fission reactor also makes a lot of sense for Lunar Tesla designed rover and this fact means that there should be a commonality between Lunar and Mars Tesla planetary rovers. Lunar nights of 14 days and Martian dust storms argue for this commonality as well as cost savings in R & D and manufacturing

We should ensure that the Kilopwer fission reactor shares commonality with Mars power surface elements as well!

We think MEPAG decadal survey group should do a BFR Mars landing site study that includes this idea that there could be a surface mobility capability and where would be the science and where would BFR find the ice it is looking for.






Novel Chimera products brewed in Celluler Agriculture

Hypothesis; cells from multiple species should be able to grow together in cellular agriculture bioreactors to create novel products & Cellular Agriculture and its applicability to solar system exploration

In a previous post, we suggested that companies that are pioneering vegetable protein products could join together with cellular agriculture. vegetable protein scaffolds could be used to mimic shark fins and the scaffold would then be populated by shark fin cells these, however, could be mixed with other animal cells.


Shark fin Salman Chimera soup

The company that makes vegetable protein based shrimp, for example, could build a scaffold for shark fin then populate the scaffold with a mix of shark fin cells and salmon cells

Shark fin scallop chimera



Cancer Terotoma Hoex genes utilized to grow cellular agriculture meat with bone

Bone provides important physical qualities to meat during cooking and curing so we need to find ways to vascularize and produce bone tissue during the cellular agriculture process

Perhaps the genes that express for Teratoma cancers that produce cancers with bone and teeth could be tamed to do this?

The bones themselves are important for the production of broths and soups. Secondly, the production of skin is important in roast birds and in Asian dishes.

Some of the characteristics of Teratomas are from cellular and tissue interactions within the organism so how these genes would interact in cell culture and vats would be informing

Blue Origins Leveraged ESOP a future recapitilazation of solar system colonization

After Blue Origins reaches a capitalized value $40 to $50 Billion you could have a Leveraged ESOP purchase Blue Origin from Jeff Bezos and the purchase price payable to Mr. Bezos could be reinvested back into Blue Origins

ESOP’s have been used to do acquisitions in this way


Most ESOP owned firms are managed by the original owners as A ESOP is an ERISA regulated Pension plan


Insight- II The international Mars Alluvial fan explorer ( IMAFE )

Insight- II The international Mars Alluvial fan explorer ( IMAFE ) & ITAFE The International Titan Alluvial fan explorer


Hypothesis; Build a copy of the INsight lander which itself is a near copy of the Mars polar lander and run a NASA AO to determine through MEPAG candidate Alluvial fans to use the INsight drill to collect thermal and seismic data on a Mars eluvial fan and its underlying basement strata.

This concept could be developed by a self-described NASA HQ internship that Dr. Green tells me about where the PI could be Eleanor Rappolee and Jeremy Rapp.Dr. Green tells OPAG that they can write your own job description/internship to develop an idea at NASA HQ as graduate students and early carrier postdocs

We have radar altimeter data of the polar ice caps layers do we have this type of data for Martian alluvial fans? data such as this would tell us with stratigraphy if martian alluvial fans are catastrophic or formed over time? An Insight-II mission would give us ground truth


Dr Green and I at OPAG Atlanta discussed that this is a great way to build on your civil service pension and retiree health benefits and that it encourages diversity! Doing this also is a recruiting tool for NASA to keep interns as the carrier workers. I discussed with Dr green that federal service was “portable” IE USGS is also federal service.

Titan Eluvial fans? I think those might show strata and deposition(particle grades) by Methane flow that would tell us about past Titan seasonality through time. This would require a new lender but the principle of the drill and its thermal and seismic sensors would be the same. This drill would need to go through the NASA cold tech research process. The principal investigators would need to write grants to go visit the French!

Utilize San Onofre & Diablo Canyon decommission concrete waste as a Kelp Forest artificial reef

Use the concrete and steel decommissioning waste as a jetty and artificial reef$FILE/A1612002-SCE-%20Neal,%20Worden-Testimony%20SCE-03.pdf

A1612002-SCE- Neal, Worden-Testimony SCE-03



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California Air National Guard 2001srt BFR/BFS Space transport wing

This project is paid for and authorized under the US constitution as a state militia expenditure and establishes  a state-funded unit that is hoped would draw federal funding

We also propose using the state initiative and referendum for voter approval

The state of California shall purchase 10 BFR/BFS vehicles over a 15 year period to serve as military transport for Earth Point to Point logistics and to encourage the rebirth of California aerospace industry

The State of California would pioneer Earth point to point transport from a California Air National Guard facility

Polar orbits from California align very well with Diego Garcia and the Middle East. Earth point to point transport means that the BFR could be used to crew up Reserve MSC Ro-Ro ships in Diego Garcia within a day and have those ships underway within 24 hours. Deployment of union hall and MARAD sailors aboard BFR means approved coast guard training courses as a part of the RAC/STCW required courses.

Large numbers of California Airmen and other  military personnel would become astronauts providing a competitive advantage to the state


Upper stage docked to first stage with docking mechanism & a adapter cradle launched “eyes out”

upper stage docked to first stage

The upper stage does not do a suborbital DT & E instead at launch the upper stage foreword dome is docked to the first stage inside a payload adapter/cradle with the upper stage engine facing up inside the payload fairing ( “eyes out”)

After MECO the stack flips and the upper stage wet mass propels the now dry mass first stage to orbit for refurbishment as habitat



Blue Origin SRB side mount Wet/Dry lab space station

Utilizes the SLS SRB with A Blue Origin First stage with a Dry lab and docking mechanisms and First stage wet lab brought to LEO
Would the Mass of the SLS CBC allow for a safe balancing with the New Glenn to get the New Glenn first stage to orbit?

This idea is most likely overkill I posted a newer version instead that suggests smaller SRM that fit modified Landing legs attach points.SLS SRB would be a total New Glenn redesign when really what we are after is selling used New Glenn launchers as space stations.

The more economical and engineering New Glenn with SRM is here New Glenn first stage space station with SRM,s at landing legs attach points


Transposition, docking, and extraction of upper stage docked back to First stage wet lab

SLS first stage almost makes it into orbit so we propose an audacious plan to perform a Transposition, docking, and extraction maneuver between the upper stage and its first stage! The upper stage docks with the first stage and then fires its engine to bring the first stage to orbit.Possibly the docked stack makes to orbit.I believe SLS is in a 200 by 70 Kilometer orbit at MECO

Astronaut longterm health is not well served by small ISS/Gateway modules so we propose that the largest possible square meter per astronaut are optimally placed in LEO and then COTS process to compete for SEP and chemical to preposition these very large Wet lab space stations throughout the solar system.

SLS, Vulcan, New Glen and to a lesser extent Falcon 9 could use Transposition, docking, and extraction to use the upper stage to bring the stack to orbit.The only payload would be an Ixion type docking adapter.The Falcon 9 is the one system that has a high-value maneuvering system that might enhance docking with its upper stage to bring both to orbit.

This daring maneuver is after all suborbital DT &E!



Apollo11-04This is incorrect! we are docking with the first stage and transporting it somewhere.This result would be both first stage and upper stage in LEO but this could a part of the distributed lift idea for the upper stage.

EDIT 26 April 2018

I have learning disabilities so let me try to think things out

We need to know the dry mass of the first stage at MECO the first stage is now are payload, Tory Bruno tells us on Twitter that first stage dry mass is  5 to 7 pounds to each pound of payload

Dry mass of the first stage at what kilometers per second? What is our shortfall to orbit? let’s do this with each first stage as wet lab candidate

Ariane 6

At MECO kilometers per second/dry mass of Ariane first stage/ wet mass of second stage and ISP of the second stage over the combined mass of both over the dry mass of first and second stage at MECO 2 of the first stage





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